Legislature(2007 - 2008)

02/05/2008 01:32 PM Senate L&C


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                  SB 196-PRESCRIPTION DATABASE                                                                              
                                                                                                                              
CHAIR ELLIS  announced SB  196 to be  up for  consideration [CSSB
196 (L&C), version K, was before the committee].                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:46:00 PM                                                                                                                    
GINGER  BLAISDELL, staff  to  Senator Green,  sponsor  of SB  196                                                               
compared the  original bill and  the proposed CS. The  first item                                                               
on page  2 was not  a change,  but she explained,  revisiting the                                                               
requirement for Schedule 1 through  V controlled substances to be                                                               
reported  had  been  recommended. She  found  little  differences                                                               
between the federal schedules and  Alaska State statute schedules                                                               
-  one being  that Schedule  I in  Alaska includes  OxyContin and                                                               
codeine; so Schedule I needed to be included in this statute.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Schedule V  controlled substances  remains because  although they                                                               
are the low-dose drugs, it is  known if they are taken with other                                                               
drugs  they  do  create  a harmful  effect.  In  Alaska  statute,                                                               
Schedule V  includes certain cough  syrups that  contain codeines                                                               
and steroids, both narcotics, so those need to be tracked.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
On page  3, line 12, subsection  4 was rewritten to  include only                                                               
the name of  the person the prescription was written  for and not                                                               
who  is actually  picking  up the  prescription.  This saves  the                                                               
pharmacist data  entry time and it's  not a standard field  to be                                                               
collected.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. BLAISDELL  said subsection 7,  in version  C on page  3, line                                                               
17,  was eliminated  because it  duplicated the  same information                                                               
that was collected under subsection  6. The following subsections                                                               
were  renumbered. On  page 4,  lines 3-5,  a sentence  was added:                                                               
"The   board  shall   undertake  to   ensure  the   security  and                                                               
confidentiality  of the  database and  the information  contained                                                               
within  the database."  She explained  this  means that  specific                                                               
data  requirements will  be at  the  discretion of  the Board  of                                                               
Pharmacy through  regulation or  operating procedures.  The board                                                               
will be  more aware  of data  security issues  with this  type of                                                               
program and  more restrictive language  would not provide  it the                                                               
flexibility it needs.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:48:36 PM                                                                                                                    
The  bill also  recommends  following the  2005 federal  National                                                               
All-schedules   Prescription    Electronic   Reporting   (NASPER)                                                               
standards. These allow states to  communicate with each other and                                                               
to have a  similar standard of data. The Board  of Pharmacy could                                                               
put specific  security requirements  in its vendor  contract, she                                                               
added.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:49:21 PM                                                                                                                    
On page 4, line 20, (line 21  of the new bill), subsection 5, was                                                               
changed slightly to better represent  law enforcement's access to                                                               
the  data. Last  week, she  said,  they heard  that Medicaid  and                                                               
potentially other  government agencies would like  to have direct                                                               
access  to the  database, but  legislative legal,  dispensers and                                                               
practitioners  around the  state pointed  out concerns  with that                                                               
because the database could be  used to for "fishing expenditions"                                                               
to look for any anomalies.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:50:28 PM                                                                                                                    
On page 5,  line 5, subsection (f), had been  replaced with: "The                                                               
board  may  enter  into  agreements   with  tribal  and  military                                                               
dispensers and practitioners in  this state to submit information                                                               
to  and  access  information  in the  database  subject  to  this                                                               
section and the  regulations of the board."  Currently tribal and                                                               
military health  care entities do not  have to report to  a state                                                               
mandated program  because they follow federal  jurisdiction. More                                                               
and more  states are volunteering to  participate in prescription                                                               
drug  monitoring  programs  because  they find  it  is  in  their                                                               
clients' best interests.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:51:10 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. BLAISDELL said  subsection (g) on page 5, line  8, of version                                                               
C had been  moved into (i); subsection (g) now  reads: "The board                                                               
shall  notify  the   president  and  speaker  of   the  house  of                                                               
representatives if, at  any time after the effective  date of the                                                               
act,  the  federal government  fails  to  pay  the costs  of  the                                                               
controlled substance prescription database."                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. BLAISDELL  noted that this  change allows the  legislature to                                                               
plan for other means of  funding without assuming the board would                                                               
automatically increase license fees to  database users. It is the                                                               
intent of the legislature that  this database be implemented as a                                                               
tool for  improving public service  and that the cost  should not                                                               
be assessed to prescribers and dispensers.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:52:01 PM                                                                                                                    
Language on  page 5, line  11, replaces subsection (f)  with: "An                                                               
individual  who  has submitted  information  to  the database  in                                                               
accordance with this  section may not be held  civilly liable for                                                               
having  submitted  the  information.   Nothing  in  this  section                                                               
requires or  obligates a dispenser  or practitioner to  access or                                                               
check   the   database    before   dispensing,   prescribing   or                                                               
administering  a  medication  or  providing  medical  care  to  a                                                               
person.  Dispensers  or practitioners  may  not  be held  civilly                                                               
liable  for  damages  for  accessing or  failing  to  access  the                                                               
information in the database."                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
She explained that computers  aren't always available, especially                                                               
in Alaska. One  instance happened last year in  the Iditarod when                                                               
someone broke his  leg and the doctor had to  phone for some pain                                                               
medication to be  flown out. The person wasn't flown  out until a                                                               
few days later.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:53:18 PM                                                                                                                    
Last, Ms. Blaisdell said, they  were asked to include drugs other                                                               
than  those in  the controlled  drug list.  In response  to this,                                                               
Senator Therriault introduced SB 38  that asks to include another                                                               
drug  to the  controlled drug  list;  this is  where other  drugs                                                               
should be added, not in SB 196.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:53:56 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR BUNDE  asked if she had  seen the January 21  letter from                                                               
the  Pharmacy  Association and  if  she  felt the  CS  adequately                                                               
addressed its concerns.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. BLAISDELL replied yes.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR ELLIS asked if it was  safe to say that version K addressed                                                               
all  the  labor  and  commerce  issues brought  up  at  the  last                                                               
meeting.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. BLAISDELL replied yes.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:55:29 PM                                                                                                                    
RON MILLER,  Pharmacist and Regional Manager,  Safeway, supported                                                               
the National Association  of Drug Store Chain's  revisions to use                                                               
a national  standard so that  multi-state companies  could easily                                                               
deal  with the  database entries  and reporting  periods. He  was                                                               
concerned with who  will pay for the program when  all the grants                                                               
are gone.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. BLAISDELL answered that the general  intent of the bill is to                                                               
provide a tool  to prescribers and dispensers so they  can make a                                                               
better  choice   in  allowing   client  access   to  prescription                                                               
narcotics. Prescription abuse is a  national trend, and in Alaska                                                               
it is  a genuine  concern because  it rolls into  a lot  of other                                                               
criminal activities. This is a  positive approach to curbing some                                                               
illegal activities in this state.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR ELLIS asked what happens when the money runs out.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BLAISDELL answered  the fiscal  note indicates  $400,000 for                                                               
the  first year  of start-up  costs. Other  states have  on-going                                                               
costs  of about  $100,000 -  $125,000 per  year. Savings  will be                                                               
seen in  insurance fraud and  over-prescribing and  these savings                                                               
will make up the difference in the cost of the ongoing program.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  ELLIS  commented  that  those savings  could  show  up  in                                                               
different  components  of the  budget,  which  would have  to  be                                                               
recognized in future budgets.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. BLAISDELL agreed.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:59:24 PM                                                                                                                    
BARRY  CHRISTENSEN, Anchorage  Pharmacist,  said he  was still  a                                                               
little concerned that the funding  for this program would fall on                                                               
the backs of the pharmacists. He  saw a potential for the need to                                                               
double the Board's current budget of $80,000 - $90,000.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BUNDE suggested a letter  of intent stating that the cost                                                               
of this program  is not to be borne by  private businesses or the                                                               
consumers.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. CHRISTENSEN said he agreed and  added that this is the number                                                               
one concern he is hearing from pharmacists.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:02:18 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR ELLIS commented  that a letter of intent  wouldn't hold the                                                               
bill up.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:03:06 PM                                                                                                                    
PATRICIA  SENNER, Alaska  Nurses Association,  had some  specific                                                               
questions about language in version  K. Subsection (b) is unclear                                                               
whether the data is to be  entered by the prescribing health care                                                               
provider, the pharmacists or both.  She suggested that using both                                                               
would  provide quality  control. The  data collected  should also                                                               
include  whether  the  patient   has  a  signed  pain  management                                                               
contract and if so, with whom that is.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Subsections (c)(2)  and (3) state  that the Board of  Pharmacy is                                                               
collecting  data   on  the  health  care   providers  prescribing                                                               
patterns and the patients acquiring  practices, but doesn't state                                                               
what the  board is supposed  to do  with the data.  She suggested                                                               
adding  a line  saying  the board  should  alert the  appropriate                                                               
licensing board  if abnormalities are suspected.  She also agreed                                                               
with a letter of intent stating  that the cost of this program is                                                               
not to be borne by the license fees.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS. BLAISDELL responded  about the language in  subsection (b) on                                                               
page  2 is  a little  confusing because  Alaska has  a number  of                                                               
prescribers   who  also   dispense  from   their  practice   like                                                               
veterinarians and medical doctors.  Regarding Ms. Senner's second                                                               
concern, she  said other  language already  exists in  statute on                                                               
the board  alerting others  of certain  types of  activities. The                                                               
language in  SB 230  clarifies that the  data this  bill collects                                                               
looks at "practices  or trends" that are determined  by the Board                                                               
of Pharmacy, not a single event.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  ELLIS asked  Ms.  Blaisdell  to work  with  Ms. Senner  on                                                               
intent language.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:07:17 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR STEVENS  moved to adopt  CSSB 117(L&C), version  K. There                                                               
were no objections and it was so ordered.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BUNDE  commented that he  would be more  comfortable with                                                               
the letter of intent.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  ELLIS  gave  his  word that  acceptable  language  on  the                                                               
financial commitment/impact  would be  written and that  it would                                                               
follow the bill.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:08:39 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR STEVENS moved  to pass CSSB 196(L&C)  from committee with                                                               
individual recommendations, attached fiscal  notes and the future                                                               
letter  of  intent.  There  were  no objections  and  it  was  so                                                               
ordered.                                                                                                                        
                  SB 196-PRESCRIPTION DATABASE                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:58:38 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR ELLIS said the letter of  intent had been delivered on CSSB
196(L&C).                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BUNDE moved to adopt the  letter of intent and to send it                                                               
on  with  the bill.  There  were  no  objections  and it  was  so                                                               
ordered.                                                                                                                        

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